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  Elders Can Hide their Own Sins from the Past-Yet Continue as Elders? Read

  by flipper in

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  i was shocked ( though i probably shouldn't have been ) when reading the new elders manual concerning whether elders have to confess up about former sins from a few years earlier.

  notice this on pg.

  38 , paragraph 19 : it states, " if it comes to light or an appointed brother confesses that he has committed a disfellowshipping offense years in the past : the body of elders may determine he can continue to serve if the following is true : the immorality or other serious wrongdoing occured more than a few years ago, and he is genuinely repentant, recognizing that he should have come forward immediately when he sinned.

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  Open mind

  It used to be a double standard, but the new book gets rid of it.

  Take a look at Chapter 5, Page 74, Paragraph 43 under the heading "Wrongdoing That Occurred Years in the Past". It's talking about ANY JW, servant or not.

  "Depending upon the circumstances, the situation may need to be handled by a judicial committee. But if the immorality or other serious wrongdoing occurred more than a few years ago and the individual is genuinely repentant and recognizes that he should have come forward immediately when he sinned, good counsel by elders may be sufficient."

  I hate it when the WT gets more reasonable over time.

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  click on the link for a few pics - Jackson must be eatin pretty good

  by booby in

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  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/jwtalks/attachments/folder/1404536699/item/271142292/view?picmode=original&mode=tn&order=ordinal&start=1&dir=asc.

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  Open mind

  Without getting into how David has been indoctrinated, brainwashed, etc, as long as he believes in eternal lion petting and a Bethel trip was TRULY his wish, it was nice of the Bethelites to give him the V.I.P. treatment for his one special day.

  (The sign-holding thing did make me want to hurl tho.)

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  How long is long enough to consider yourself safe?

  by cherrypye in

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  for those of us that were baptized and faded, how long do you think before we can stop worrying about being called in for a jc?

  i've faded 13 years ago, but i still never answer an unknown phone number, don't answer a knock at the door unless a friend has told me they are on their way, etc.

  also, i avoid giving anyone other than my mom my contact info and no one gets my address.. i could care less about avoiding a df, were it not for my family that is still in.

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  Have you not associated with JWs for "many" years?

  Good luck interpreting "many".

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  Has Anyone Seen the Cover of Weezers New CD?????

  by daringhart13 in

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  is it me..........or ............uh........wth?????.

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  Here's a thread about it:

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/201069/1/Weezers-new-album-cover-a-WT-picture

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  Scientology vs. Jehovah's Witnesses

  by torn in two son in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  little update about myself real quick: haven't posted in a while, got curious about what was on the boards, so i had to log on.

  amazed i still remember my password.

  a jw friend of mine (who is unaware i'm an atheist), and i were talking during lunch at school when he brings up scientology.

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  What's so wacky about a talkin' snake?

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  Conscious Class: Do you still go in field service?

  by brotherdan in

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  i know there are some of the "conscious class" on the board (i.e.

  yknot, miseryloveselders,elderelite,etc...) do you guys still go in the field ministry?

  and if so, what do you focus on?

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  BTW, for those who still go door-to-door, here's an idea for a presentation that always works.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/beliefs/152657/1/Best-Field-Service-Presentation-Direct-Approach-Im-serious

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  Conscious Class: Do you still go in field service?

  by brotherdan in

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  i know there are some of the "conscious class" on the board (i.e.

  yknot, miseryloveselders,elderelite,etc...) do you guys still go in the field ministry?

  and if so, what do you focus on?

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  Open mind

  Haven't actually knocked on a door in about a year now.

  However we still discuss some piece of WT Litterature with our unbaptized kids at least once a week.

  So we can count that as FS time, right?

  What? Our discussions of WT Litterature don't have to be POSITIVE do they?

  So yeah. We e-mail our FS time in religiously.

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  2011 Special Talk: Bible Principles-Can They Help Us to Cope With Today's Problems?

  by yknot in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ahh low and behold!.

  it turns out those bethelites were being bold!.

  brazen is what many with login privileges can be called.... ....... knowing that such an important talk outline shouldn't be stalled!.

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  Food at the "proper" time.

  Thanks yknot & collaboraters!!!

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  For those still trapped in the cult, be careful with your sanity

  by TastingFreedom in

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  i relate to your pain and suffering.

  you remind me of the struggle i had for over a year, where i was pushing myself to go the meetings and even gave public talks because of friends and family, even when i knew it was all bullshit.

  i was so sick to my stomach, that i literally felt like puking during the meetings.

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  Thanks for sharing the reality of leaving the JWs.

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  NEED HELP ASAP

  by BoomTown in

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  my wife is bitter towards the organization right now and is finally willing to talk about flaws without her shutting down.

  what is the easiest way to prove the witnesses don't have the "the single truth" of the bible?.

  today i said to her, "you are probably worried about leaving because you think "what if they are right and armageddon comes.

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  Open mind

  You mentioned that her 3 best friends are "worldly" and that the "Jehovah's gonna kill em @ Armageddon" approach didn't work.

  Why didn't it? What was her response?

  Does she really think a God of love is going to kill her best friends because they don't join the JWs?

  If you agree with the following world view you might want to see what she thinks of it:

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  You should live your life and try to make the world a better place for your being in it, whether or not you believe in god. If there is no god, you have lost nothing and will be remembered fondly by those you left behind. If there is a benevolent god, he will judge you on your merits and not just on whether or not you believed in him.

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  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atheist%27s_Wager

  Use lots of patience and love with her.

  Even if your name is Richard..........

  .....don't be a dick.

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